five

It's the same view point overall.

chelydra

By the way, can anyone tell me what 'Mugdots' means (if anything)?

five

She's the TDer who started the first challenge, way way back, so it carries her name. The other regular challenge once had a name, too, Golden Pen, I think, but that fell away.

chelydra

The high cubist links include some brief tutorials that get into the figure-ground business...

chelydra

Thanks. One of the mythic Elders.

five

figure/ground, some basics...

http://gdbasics.com/index.php?s=figureground

coho

Very interesting about the depth perception stuff, I practice a lot of eye exercises and perception stuff and it is fun to learn more. One interesting one they use to improve perception in basket ball players, is make a small card that fits on the bridge of the nose but allows you to see only out of peripheral vision. It stimulates the part of your eyes that see's movement. I found it broadens ones whole view of the world when the focus isn't in the center like we normally use.

five

That's cool, Coho. It's a wider depth perception.

If the card is narrow enough not to completely block out the center, the card still widens depth perception but at the same time the card seems to disappear and you can shift the dominance of one eye's view back and forth if you tilt the car left to right, right to left.

five

I meant peripheral perception -- geez, need to teach my fingers to type the words I am thinking.

five

I perhaps can be a bit slow, sometimes. Chelydra, are the London links you posted to your work? The drawings are fantastic.

chelydra

Yup & thanks.

chelydra

I showed you mine...

five

Okay, here's a link to a drawing i did (honoring Daniel Burnham's vision) for the City of Chicago's Riverwalk...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_plBWNWpFGS0/SDZdpyl9PYI/AAAAAAAAAPI/tGNw8NjACv0/s1600-h/BurnhamPortr aitsmall%28c%29.jpg

five

and a link to one more, this one in color ...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_plBWNWpFGS0/RxKBKQhg3mI/AAAAAAAAAF0/5KD-fP0zHr0/s1600-h/barewalls200 7.jpg

chelydra

I'm going to have to meditate on these for a bit. Not what I expected! Need to adjust.

chelydra

Was just starting a political cartoon (at the risk of upsetting the equilibrium and blessedly apolitical atmosphere here)... will be back when done... There seems to be a lot going on under the surface in the river walk...

Qsilv

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34471582@N04/sets/72157612705436451/

chelydra

Five,
Finally finished the cartoon. Took forever. Trying to draw a two-inch long sperm whale in candy in impossible. I took the liberty of googling you to see what else I might see, and was hugely relieved. As on ThinkDraw, I'm madly in love in with about a third (maybe more) of your pictures (from blog).
The examples you chose to show here I can't relate to, although I felt better about the one in color after I noticed it was swarming with little creatures (which I saw after about five minutes). The big B&W piece is dominated by the portrait, and as you may have noticed I have very definite ideas about portraits— or maybe they're about anatomy. I go crazy when features aren't rooted in skulls.
Pix I love on blog include 'optics' and 'color variations' — so far I've only glanced at a page or two.
There are very few artists who I get hypnotized by. Fewer still who can do that with so many different pictures in so many different styles. Of those, there's only a single one (that I can think of offhand) who isn't among the famous immortals (Tintoretto, Rembrandt, Matisse, and the rest of that gang), who is you. Having said that, I wish you'd practice drawing skulls!

Qsliv, thanks for sharing your portraits, which do pass with flying colors. (The test is whether I'm jealous, which I am. I need to draw some skulls too I guess.)

five

Hmm, well, er. hmm, Chelydra. Glad you found something you liked . And I appreciate the flattery that came at the end. On the Burnham drawing, I un-rooted root the features. I think that's what you are talking about -- the eyes are unnaturally close together and not sunk into sockets, the nose and mouth is distorted -- they are crammed into two halves of a rectangular plane that was meant to float; I probably should have pushed that rectangle a bit more to the right, with a bit less white space beside it, or better yet, perhaps the opposite, more white space to the right and the features even more squished together so the distortion was more pronounced. Anyhow, I was trying to have the "face" subtly shifting. Whether it works or not is a separate question. It didn't for you. Still, I'll admit, I can always use practice on portraits; off to draw skulls,now.
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Q, I love your portraits, such a gentle feel to them.

five

I should have also said, thank for your thoughts. I appreciate them.